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Another 1.2 fan here. If you’re running your route on an XT, XT2 or XT3, what you create on MRA Routeplanner is recalculated the same (without fail) on the Garmin.
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@travellexxie @john-s-parry; Do you also use Basecamp as an intermediate step before sending the route to the GPS?
I understand your reasoning, but when I use version 1.2 and import it into Basecamp, the route I get is just a straight line between the start and end points. The track is correct, but I can’t recalculate the route in Basecamp so that it largely follows the track.
In version 1.1, when I recalculate the route, it does follow the track (and the waypoints I’ve entered), so I usually only need to tweak a few details! -
@travellexxie @john-s-parry; Do you also use Basecamp as an intermediate step before sending the route to the GPS?
I understand your reasoning, but when I use version 1.2 and import it into Basecamp, the route I get is just a straight line between the start and end points. The track is correct, but I can’t recalculate the route in Basecamp so that it largely follows the track.
In version 1.1, when I recalculate the route, it does follow the track (and the waypoints I’ve entered), so I usually only need to tweak a few details!
@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike said:
Do you also use Basecamp as an intermediate step before sending the route to the GPS?
No.....
I've tried importing 1.2 routes into Basecamp, and it usually doesn't come in correctly. In the nutshell, I don't think BC understands 1.2 GPX format.
Regardless of where I create a route (MRA, Basecamp, etc.), I export it as a GPX file. I then do a wired file copy directly into the Garmin/GPX folder on the GPS. A 1.1 route is not guaranteed to recalculate in the GPS exactly as it was created. Sometimes, additional WP's have to be added to force GPS recalculation as intended. With 1.2, it's guaranteed to recalculate as intended. At least, that's been the case with the dozens of 1.2 routes I've exported.
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@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike said:
Do you also use Basecamp as an intermediate step before sending the route to the GPS?
No.....
I've tried importing 1.2 routes into Basecamp, and it usually doesn't come in correctly. In the nutshell, I don't think BC understands 1.2 GPX format.
Regardless of where I create a route (MRA, Basecamp, etc.), I export it as a GPX file. I then do a wired file copy directly into the Garmin/GPX folder on the GPS. A 1.1 route is not guaranteed to recalculate in the GPS exactly as it was created. Sometimes, additional WP's have to be added to force GPS recalculation as intended. With 1.2, it's guaranteed to recalculate as intended. At least, that's been the case with the dozens of 1.2 routes I've exported.
@John-S-Parry GPX 1.2 is a format developed by MRA for Garmin devices. That’s why I suspect it is incompatible with BaseCamp.
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Ahhh, that explains why the 1.2 format for me will not work. Well, I can coop with the 1.1 format te be used in Basecamp.
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@travellexxie @john-s-parry; Do you also use Basecamp as an intermediate step before sending the route to the GPS?
I understand your reasoning, but when I use version 1.2 and import it into Basecamp, the route I get is just a straight line between the start and end points. The track is correct, but I can’t recalculate the route in Basecamp so that it largely follows the track.
In version 1.1, when I recalculate the route, it does follow the track (and the waypoints I’ve entered), so I usually only need to tweak a few details!
@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike no, why using Basecamp when you have MRA??? Don't come with the story that only Basecamp has the right maps for the XT. That is purely theoretical. The 1.2 is a route based on a track, with only the viapoints, therefore you have no shapingpoints. That is why you get a straight line and recalculating won't help. In this case Basecamp is making a route of its own. I use MRA since 2021 and have never used Basecamp anymore for controlling my routes. Examine the route carefully, if the waypoints are on the grey line and that's it.
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@Mike-wiruth The standard and recommended format is GPX 1.1
However, this isn't necessary at all for using the MRA Next app offline.
The important thing is that the maps are available offline and that the routes are synced.
Everything else works automatically when you navigate with MRA Next.
If you're absolutely sure you don't have cell service, you can also navigate completely offline right away.
To do this, simply go to the app's navigation settings, select “Route Calculation,” and enable the “Offline Navigation” option
@Peter-Zehentreiter Is there any disadvantage to navigating offline? If I have that chosen, will it only navigate off line when there is no signal?
Thanks very much for your help.
MikeMike W
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@Peter-Zehentreiter Is there any disadvantage to navigating offline? If I have that chosen, will it only navigate off line when there is no signal?
Thanks very much for your help.
Mike
@Mike-wiruth Offline navigation works exactly the same as online navigation—you won't notice any difference.
The only difference is that traffic reports and disruptions are not displayed.
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@John-S-Parry GPX 1.2 is a format developed by MRA for Garmin devices. That’s why I suspect it is incompatible with BaseCamp.
GPX 1.2 is a format developed by MRA for Garmin devices. That’s why I suspect it is incompatible with BaseCamp.
Yes, that makes sense. All the same, I've tried just in case. After creating a route in MRA, I like viewing it in BC for calculation verification. If it imports/calculates as I intend in BC, it's usually going to calculate as Intend in my XT/XT3 devices. Diagnostics directly on the smaller GPS are more of a challenge.
@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike said:
Ahhh, that explains why the 1.2 format for me will not work. Well, I can coop with the 1.1 format te be used in Basecamp.
At some point if upgrade to an XT3, you won't be able to use Basecamp to transfer your route to the device. You'll either have to use the Tread app or do the wired file copy. I've never used the MRA Connector, so I don't if that's still an option. Some people are intimidated by the manual file copy, but it's actually quite simple. It gives you complete control of the process.
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@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike no, why using Basecamp when you have MRA??? Don't come with the story that only Basecamp has the right maps for the XT. That is purely theoretical. The 1.2 is a route based on a track, with only the viapoints, therefore you have no shapingpoints. That is why you get a straight line and recalculating won't help. In this case Basecamp is making a route of its own. I use MRA since 2021 and have never used Basecamp anymore for controlling my routes. Examine the route carefully, if the waypoints are on the grey line and that's it.
@a-white-mouse-on-the-motorbike no, why using Basecamp when you have MRA?
Simple. The Gamin XT was bought before I had a AA screen and mounted on my motorcycle.
Nowadays I'm using MRA in combination with the AA screen as my main routescreen. And the Garmin is only used as a backup. -
For me it is just the opposite. MRA Next is my back up. Never needed it so far.
I always optimize any route in the web version before I export the gpx1.1 and import it into BC and optimize it again before sending it to he XT through Drive or directly via cable (which I prefer). Even then, as the algorithmes of the gps and the web version are not the same, recalculation in the gps may come with some surprises. But having the BC track always visible one can interprete the directions properly.
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