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Problema Car play

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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

    I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

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    @Con-Hennekens It didn't work. It keeps freezing. 😑 https://youtu.be/4SKGopQtn94?si=XQuD7SNHonuQv_rq

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      @Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...

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      @b0hd1 I don’t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. I’ll then try to reproduce the issue.
      I’m unable to play the video you posted...

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      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

        @b0hd1 I don’t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. I’ll then try to reproduce the issue.
        I’m unable to play the video you posted...

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        @Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
        For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
        Please @Corjan-Meijerink

        Regards

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        • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

          @Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
          For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
          Please @Corjan-Meijerink

          Regards

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          @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesn’t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. We’ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
          In MY experiance it’s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

            @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesn’t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. We’ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
            In MY experiance it’s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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            @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Problema Car play:

            @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesn’t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. We’ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom I can confirm also that MRA doesn't work on two of my devices with my CP/AA device.

            Perhaps, this 99,5% is not so high as you expects.

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            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

              @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesn’t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. We’ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
              In MY experiance it’s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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              @Marinus-van-Deudekom I know exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't work reliably with wireless Android Auto. 100% demonstrable, as many times as necessary, on different devices. As I said, I won't do any more testing or engage in any more debate. I'm available to @Corjan-Meijerink for any testing he needs, just as I and my group of over 1000 users have done for the past 5 years. Quietly, but with a lot of hard work. Regards.

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                Seguimos haciendo pruebas con diferentes combinaciones de:

                • Smartphone
                • Versión de Android
                • Carplay
                • Configuración smartphone
                • Configuración Myrouteapp

                Encontraremos el error. No nos rendimos. 😎

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Adrian-Avram said in Problema Car play:

                  The developers seem more focused on adding new features than on fixing this fundamental problem.

                  I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version. The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions, so in all honesty you cannot claim that nothing has been done about it.

                  @Adrian-Avram said in Problema Car play:

                  I’m not willing to risk mounting a phone worth over €1,000 on the handlebars just to use MyRoute App.

                  No, I would certainly not advise that, I do not even put my 2 years old €600 phone on my handlebar. Instead I buy a fully rugged phone for €250 instead of some twice as expensive AA/CP device 😉 and be done with it.

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                  @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

                  I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version. The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions, so in all honesty you cannot claim that nothing has been done about it.

                  I don't think this is entirely true... I am a user from the start and there where and stil are many problems with AA/CP version. It's just that a lot of people are tired of keep on complaining. The team is working hard but i still think a lot of effort goes to new functions which are not really needed. But stability is underestamited. I still have a ticket open and it's just not answerd. I think te app has a lot to offer and could be awsome, but for now it's just not stable enough to use with AA.

                  In my ticket i also send a lot of input with test information and i really think a lot has to do with the processor capacity in a phone, related to heating up when charging which slows down the processor. This results in a instable communication with the AA/CP software and results un unstability. I think if the software would be able to use less CPU cycles, and as a result generates less heat in the phone a lot of unstability issues will be resolved.

                  But, still the app on just the phone is great and the team has a really great navigation app. If it just was.....

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                    You may think what you want, but I don't think you have the data needed to sustain your claim. If the problem was as easy as processor capacity, it would most likely be solved by now.

                    What could be an interesting test case, also for @b0hd1 if he is willing to listen to a non-staff forum member, is to try identical test procedures with HERE's own WeGo app. This app is based on the same SDK. if test results are comparable with WeGo, the problem could be part of the SDK or underlying platform.

                    Over the last days I have been testing lack of cell signal by emulating that through the flightmode. AA (wireless) has been rock solid for me. Also I learned that the automatic switching between online and temporary off-line mode in the app is much much faster than before (since v5). Whenever something changes in the network, an internet test is conducted, and temporary offline mode is switched on or off accordingly. In earlier versions such a test was only done at a recalculation. But anyhow, this lack of data does not seem to influence AA stability for me.

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      You may think what you want, but I don't think you have the data needed to sustain your claim. If the problem was as easy as processor capacity, it would most likely be solved by now.

                      What could be an interesting test case, also for @b0hd1 if he is willing to listen to a non-staff forum member, is to try identical test procedures with HERE's own WeGo app. This app is based on the same SDK. if test results are comparable with WeGo, the problem could be part of the SDK or underlying platform.

                      Over the last days I have been testing lack of cell signal by emulating that through the flightmode. AA (wireless) has been rock solid for me. Also I learned that the automatic switching between online and temporary off-line mode in the app is much much faster than before (since v5). Whenever something changes in the network, an internet test is conducted, and temporary offline mode is switched on or off accordingly. In earlier versions such a test was only done at a recalculation. But anyhow, this lack of data does not seem to influence AA stability for me.

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                      @Con-Hennekens Como comentaba en un post anterior, estamos haciendo diferentes pruebas modificando las siguientes variables:
                      Smartphone
                      Versión de Android
                      Carplay
                      Configuración smartphone
                      Configuración Myrouteapp

                      y reportando directamente al staff técnico.

                      Saludos.

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