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  • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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    Con Hennekens
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    In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

    In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

    There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

      In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

      There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      #29

      @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

      In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

      Take for sure I'll test this.

      But, have you noted that this reply is someone we expect to have?

      This one, even in case not working for us,

      • explain how AA uses Location,
      • address a workaround for AA Aplications
      • and why, even if this workarond sounds "bad", must be taken into account.

      This kind of answers is what I expect from an Alpha Tester. Great!

      Regards!!!

      Lluis Arasanz

      • BMW F750GS
        MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
      • Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

        In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

        There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        #30

        @Con-Hennekens Yes sir!! Now that's more like it!!! This is what I call trying to provide solutions and making valuable contributions. Bravo. I'll try it this afternoon. I have a trip of just over an hour and I'll be able to run several tests. I'll let you know the results.

        Thanks again.

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #31

          Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

          I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

            I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

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            #32

            @Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!

            Barcelona
            BMW R1200GS
            Oneplus 13
            Chigee AIO6
            ๐˜พ๐™ง๐™š๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ฉ๐™ฌ๐™ค ๐™ฅ๐™–๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™œ๐™ง๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฅ๐™จ ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ˆ๐™ฎ๐™๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™š๐˜ผ๐™ฅ๐™ฅ
            https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
            https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
            https://www.youtube.com/@demco17

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            • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

              @Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!

              Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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              Alpha tester
              wrote last edited by
              #33

              @b0hd1 said in Problema Car play:

              So we're all in the same boat!

              We certainly are! ๐Ÿ˜‰

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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              • Rob Verhoeffundefined Offline
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                Alpha tester
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                #34

                Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. Iโ€™ve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didnโ€™t encounter any issues.

                BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                iOS on iPhone 13 & 16 (mounted on Quadlock)
                Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Tahoe & Ventura)

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                • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                  Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. Iโ€™ve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didnโ€™t encounter any issues.

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                  #35

                  @Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...

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                  Oneplus 13
                  Chigee AIO6
                  ๐˜พ๐™ง๐™š๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ฉ๐™ฌ๐™ค ๐™ฅ๐™–๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™œ๐™ง๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฅ๐™จ ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ˆ๐™ฎ๐™๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™š๐˜ผ๐™ฅ๐™ฅ
                  https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
                  https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
                  https://www.youtube.com/@demco17

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

                    I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

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                    #36

                    @Con-Hennekens It didn't work. It keeps freezing. ๐Ÿ˜‘ https://youtu.be/4SKGopQtn94?si=XQuD7SNHonuQv_rq

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                    Chigee AIO6
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                    https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
                    https://www.youtube.com/@demco17

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                    • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

                      @Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...

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                      @b0hd1 I donโ€™t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. Iโ€™ll then try to reproduce the issue.
                      Iโ€™m unable to play the video you posted...

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                      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                        @b0hd1 I donโ€™t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. Iโ€™ll then try to reproduce the issue.
                        Iโ€™m unable to play the video you posted...

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                        #38

                        @Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
                        For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
                        Please @Corjan-Meijerink

                        Regards

                        Barcelona
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                        Oneplus 13
                        Chigee AIO6
                        ๐˜พ๐™ง๐™š๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ฉ๐™ฌ๐™ค ๐™ฅ๐™–๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™œ๐™ง๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฅ๐™จ ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ˆ๐™ฎ๐™๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™š๐˜ผ๐™ฅ๐™ฅ
                        https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
                        https://www.youtube.com/@demco17

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                        • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

                          @Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
                          For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
                          Please @Corjan-Meijerink

                          Regards

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                          @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesnโ€™t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. Weโ€™ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
                          In MY experiance itโ€™s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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                            @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesnโ€™t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. Weโ€™ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
                            In MY experiance itโ€™s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Problema Car play:

                            @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesnโ€™t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. Weโ€™ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom I can confirm also that MRA doesn't work on two of my devices with my CP/AA device.

                            Perhaps, this 99,5% is not so high as you expects.

                            Lluis Arasanz

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                            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                              @b0hd1 let me say that I truely believe that in YOUR case MRA doesnโ€™t work perfectie with YOUR AA device. Weโ€™ve that in more combinations of devices. Your statement that MRA is 100% not reliable is absolutely not correct.
                              In MY experiance itโ€™s 99,5% reliable. The half % comming from the one update introducing the Free ride mode witch caused my AA to freeze up completely, witch Corjan fixed that same day.

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                              @Marinus-van-Deudekom I know exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't work reliably with wireless Android Auto. 100% demonstrable, as many times as necessary, on different devices. As I said, I won't do any more testing or engage in any more debate. I'm available to @Corjan-Meijerink for any testing he needs, just as I and my group of over 1000 users have done for the past 5 years. Quietly, but with a lot of hard work. Regards.

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