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  • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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    Con Hennekens
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    I would probably never use it and wonder why people would. But it seems a logical thing to have. I believe most navigation tools have that. Could be an extra option in the compass tap sequence perhaps.

    It would be interesting to know for what circumstances people would want to use a north-up map.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      I would probably never use it and wonder why people would. But it seems a logical thing to have. I believe most navigation tools have that. Could be an extra option in the compass tap sequence perhaps.

      It would be interesting to know for what circumstances people would want to use a north-up map.

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      I think "north-up" makes it easier to see if you're going in the right general direction and to orientate yourself on the map, as it also matches what you see during planning. However, it doesn't make much sense when combined with a 3D view.

      I use both (simultaneously): using TomTom Go, I have the 3D view (track up) on the main (CarPlay) display and the 2D map (north up) on my phone. Haven't tried this with MRA yet.

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      • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

        I think "north-up" makes it easier to see if you're going in the right general direction and to orientate yourself on the map, as it also matches what you see during planning. However, it doesn't make much sense when combined with a 3D view.

        I use both (simultaneously): using TomTom Go, I have the 3D view (track up) on the main (CarPlay) display and the 2D map (north up) on my phone. Haven't tried this with MRA yet.

        Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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        Con Hennekens
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        #9

        @Herko-ter-Horst, Yes, I agree with that. But for that general orientation we have the route-overview, accessed by a long press on the compass. That actually IS north-up πŸ˜‰ (but you can rotate it by hand).

        I was under the impression that TS would like the zoomed navigation-window itself in a north-up mode. But maybe I am overthinking that.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • LAGRANGEundefined LAGRANGE

          Is an otion "north up" display foreseen in the new MyRoute-app? Right now there isn't in the Navigation app! I know most people prefer the "track up" display, but don't ask me why, I don't πŸ™‚

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          @LAGRANGE very much agree. On twisty roads can get disoriented in terms of direction and far prefer anchoring the map north up and seeing my direction of travel move accordingly. I think this is a gap and a reason I’m finding myself using other apps still.

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Herko-ter-Horst, Yes, I agree with that. But for that general orientation we have the route-overview, accessed by a long press on the compass. That actually IS north-up πŸ˜‰ (but you can rotate it by hand).

            I was under the impression that TS would like the zoomed navigation-window itself in a north-up mode. But maybe I am overthinking that.

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            @Con-Hennekens sorry for mu late answer! As far as I tried, the route overview is indeed "north up", but as soon as you start driving, the screen come back to the navigation view, I mean "trackup"?!

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            • LAGRANGEundefined LAGRANGE

              @Con-Hennekens sorry for mu late answer! As far as I tried, the route overview is indeed "north up", but as soon as you start driving, the screen come back to the navigation view, I mean "trackup"?!

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              #12

              On 22 Jan 2024 I received the below reply from MRA (Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior):
              The fixed North-Up view is something that has been discussed but as far as I know there has been no announcement that it will be implemented just yet.
              A topic regarding this was started in the MRA Community Forum in May '23, you can read it here and maybe add your name to those that would like to see a North up option.

              Herewith I'm adding my request for a fixed map North-Up option while navigating.

              Last year I purchased "MyRouteApp' for the purpose of helping colleagues within my motorcycle-club, plus for my own curiosity and (if once needed) as a back-up system. Until now I don't use the program myself, mainly because it can't be set to map North-Up orientation.

              I'm accustomed to travel with a paper map on the (motorcycle)tank and still use that next to GNSS navigation. A 'rotating' map on a satellite navigation product is a 'no-go' for me.
              Just imagine observing both maps (nav & paper) at the same time, it would lead me into schizophrenia.

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              • tony_rundefined tony_r

                On 22 Jan 2024 I received the below reply from MRA (Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior):
                The fixed North-Up view is something that has been discussed but as far as I know there has been no announcement that it will be implemented just yet.
                A topic regarding this was started in the MRA Community Forum in May '23, you can read it here and maybe add your name to those that would like to see a North up option.

                Herewith I'm adding my request for a fixed map North-Up option while navigating.

                Last year I purchased "MyRouteApp' for the purpose of helping colleagues within my motorcycle-club, plus for my own curiosity and (if once needed) as a back-up system. Until now I don't use the program myself, mainly because it can't be set to map North-Up orientation.

                I'm accustomed to travel with a paper map on the (motorcycle)tank and still use that next to GNSS navigation. A 'rotating' map on a satellite navigation product is a 'no-go' for me.
                Just imagine observing both maps (nav & paper) at the same time, it would lead me into schizophrenia.

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                @tony_r, you could also ask the printer of the paper map to print it track up... πŸ˜€

                Jokes aside, I think that not many people still use north up, but it seems like an easy thing to do, and any serious navigation app should have it. I imagine an extra toggle option on the short-tap compass icon. I don't miss it, but I would probably still use it under circumstances, when available.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  I would probably never use it and wonder why people would. But it seems a logical thing to have. I believe most navigation tools have that. Could be an extra option in the compass tap sequence perhaps.

                  It would be interesting to know for what circumstances people would want to use a north-up map.

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                  @Con-Hennekens I normaly use the north up view, as I would like to see easily in which direction (north, south, west, east) I am driving.
                  It is helpfull if you are do some scouting trips and/or hit major deviations.

                  Greetings
                  Tom

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                  • Lenny Oundefined Offline
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                    Lenny O
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                    +1 for NORTH UP! For many reasons.
                    Should definitely be an option!
                    Given the complexity of the App for phone navigation, this should really be an easy one!
                    It really is super annoying not having it when riding the super curvy roads.
                    It is dizzying!
                    I just stop using the app....

                    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                    • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                      +1 for NORTH UP! For many reasons.
                      Should definitely be an option!
                      Given the complexity of the App for phone navigation, this should really be an easy one!
                      It really is super annoying not having it when riding the super curvy roads.
                      It is dizzying!
                      I just stop using the app....

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                      @Lenny-O said in north up:

                      It is dizzying!

                      Just look at the road more, instead of your screen πŸ˜‰
                      Just kidding. So many people, so many wishes.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Lenny-O said in north up:

                        It is dizzying!

                        Just look at the road more, instead of your screen πŸ˜‰
                        Just kidding. So many people, so many wishes.

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                        Lenny O
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                        #17

                        @Con-Hennekens Hahahaha πŸ™‚
                        My peripheral vision is too good to ignore the jumping map πŸ™‚

                        Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                          Lenny O
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                          @Peter-Schiefer Maybe... To each his own... That's why I feel there should be an OPTION for North UP.
                          As for me - I am also a Private Pilot, and I am used to seeing the world North UP πŸ™‚ I need to always understand my orientation in space...
                          I understand the confusion point for some (my wife, for one, demands track up for her navigation setting).... I always laugh at her πŸ˜‰
                          If the Nav gives you voice directions - just follow it.... right? πŸ˜‰

                          Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                            @Peter-Schiefer, Yes, people come in two flavors, those who understand maps, and those who rotate them... πŸ˜‰

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              A north up mode will be added in 4.1.3: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/45680

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