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  • undefined Rob Verhoeff
    8 Dec 2023, 20:03

    @Calibos Strange, have to wait until some genius comes by I think...

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    Calibos
    wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:04 last edited by
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    @Rob-Verhoeff
    the only thing I've done since September is update the app to the latest version

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    • undefined Calibos
      8 Dec 2023, 20:04

      @Rob-Verhoeff
      the only thing I've done since September is update the app to the latest version

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      Rob Verhoeff
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      wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:07 last edited by
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      @Calibos said in Offline mode no longer works:

      @Rob-Verhoeff
      the only thing I've done since September is update the app to the latest version

      Same here... as you can see, completely offline:

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      • undefined Rob Verhoeff
        8 Dec 2023, 20:07

        @Calibos said in Offline mode no longer works:

        @Rob-Verhoeff
        the only thing I've done since September is update the app to the latest version

        Same here... as you can see, completely offline:

        IMG_0246.jpeg

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        Calibos
        wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:12 last edited by
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        @Rob-Verhoeff
        yes it worked perfectly before exactly like you

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        • undefined Calibos
          8 Dec 2023, 20:12

          @Rob-Verhoeff
          yes it worked perfectly before exactly like you

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          Rob Verhoeff
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          wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:15 last edited by Rob Verhoeff 12 Aug 2023, 20:15
          #8

          @Calibos reboot your phone or tablet and try again?

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          • undefined Rob Verhoeff
            8 Dec 2023, 20:15

            @Calibos reboot your phone or tablet and try again?

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            Calibos
            wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:16 last edited by
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            @Rob-Verhoeff
            I have already rebooted the tablet.
            we would say that the application no longer sees my cards

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            • undefined Calibos
              8 Dec 2023, 20:16

              @Rob-Verhoeff
              I have already rebooted the tablet.
              we would say that the application no longer sees my cards

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              Rob Verhoeff
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              wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:18 last edited by
              #10

              @Calibos Same as in this topic?

              Try to initiate a route that is stored in the tablet's internal memory rather than on the memory card. If that works, you'll know what the issue is.

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              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
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              • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                8 Dec 2023, 20:18

                @Calibos Same as in this topic?

                Try to initiate a route that is stored in the tablet's internal memory rather than on the memory card. If that works, you'll know what the issue is.

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                Calibos
                wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:24 last edited by
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                @Rob-Verhoeff
                I'll try

                Is there a way to see the maps present on the SD card?

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                • undefined Calibos
                  8 Dec 2023, 20:24

                  @Rob-Verhoeff
                  I'll try

                  Is there a way to see the maps present on the SD card?

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                  wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:25 last edited by
                  #12

                  @Calibos I've no idea, don't have SD-storage on an iPhone...

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                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                  • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                    8 Dec 2023, 20:25

                    @Calibos I've no idea, don't have SD-storage on an iPhone...

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                    Calibos
                    wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:32 last edited by
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                    @Rob-Verhoeff
                    I'm re-downloading the map of the region and I'll try it later

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                    • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                      8 Dec 2023, 20:25

                      @Calibos I've no idea, don't have SD-storage on an iPhone...

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                      Calibos
                      wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:39 last edited by
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                      @Rob-Verhoeff

                      it works again after re-downloading the map of this region. It's good but it's worrying if an update loses the links to the downloaded maps!

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                      • undefined Calibos
                        8 Dec 2023, 20:39

                        @Rob-Verhoeff

                        it works again after re-downloading the map of this region. It's good but it's worrying if an update loses the links to the downloaded maps!

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                        Calibos
                        wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 20:58 last edited by
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                        @Calibos
                        @developer

                        It would be necessary to be able to view the list of maps accessible offline. or like the background certain software a different color for the region available offline.
                        And above all understand why these cards lost their links with the application following the update

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                          paul69
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2023, 09:05 last edited by
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                          hi @Calibos

                          i had a very similar issue, after downloading the latest map update.

                          for example, i select a favourite to navigate to, and a pop up reads this cannot be calculated or similar words.

                          i only ever use offline mode when navigating, but after the update it would not calculate any route.
                          the only way to rectify the problem was to delete the maps then download again, I then rebooted the app and all worked perfectly.

                          hopefully this will help others in the future.

                          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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                          • undefined Calibos
                            8 Dec 2023, 20:32

                            @Rob-Verhoeff
                            I'm re-downloading the map of the region and I'll try it later

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 9 Dec 2023, 13:41 last edited by Con Hennekens 12 Sept 2023, 13:42
                            #17

                            @Calibos, What I THINK is happening is that you updated the app to a version that is no longer compatible with the offline maps you had for the previous version. I think you need to update the maps before you do anything else.

                            There have been added some features to the app that depend on newer maps. Also the current SDK has been upgraded multiple times since summer, and often a map update is obligated after that.

                            @Corjan-Meijerink, do you agree with this? If so it could be very helpful to do a map-check after an app-update. At the moment you only see map updates if you actively look for it in the menu. Therefore it can happen to run behind with the map version.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              RetiredWingMan
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                              wrote on 9 Dec 2023, 20:34 last edited by
                              #18

                              I agree, it appears that recent updates require updated maps.

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                                Calibos
                                wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 18:57 last edited by
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                                Ok updating the map fixed the problem. Only if I hadn't checked in the evening before leaving, I simply wouldn't have been able to sail with mra this weekend.
                                If in fact the version of the application requires a reloading of the maps then there should be an alert message when launching the app about the need to update the maps.

                                Another point as I asked a little above would be to have a way to view the cards present in offline mode on the device because here it is impossible to know if my cards still used in the fall were lost or present on my tablet.

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                                • undefined Calibos
                                  10 Dec 2023, 18:57

                                  Ok updating the map fixed the problem. Only if I hadn't checked in the evening before leaving, I simply wouldn't have been able to sail with mra this weekend.
                                  If in fact the version of the application requires a reloading of the maps then there should be an alert message when launching the app about the need to update the maps.

                                  Another point as I asked a little above would be to have a way to view the cards present in offline mode on the device because here it is impossible to know if my cards still used in the fall were lost or present on my tablet.

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                                  Con Hennekens
                                  Alpha tester
                                  wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 12:24 last edited by
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                                  @Calibos said in Offline mode no longer works:

                                  Another point as I asked a little above would be to have a way to view the cards present in offline mode on the device

                                  Maps you downloaded are marked with a check-mark.
                                  Or do I misunderstand what you mean?

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • undefined Con Hennekens
                                    11 Dec 2023, 12:24

                                    @Calibos said in Offline mode no longer works:

                                    Another point as I asked a little above would be to have a way to view the cards present in offline mode on the device

                                    Maps you downloaded are marked with a check-mark.
                                    Or do I misunderstand what you mean?

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                                    wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 19:17 last edited by
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                                    @Con-Hennekens
                                    Indeed, the check mark represents downloaded maps or maps updated with the latest version. in my example, I no longer saw checkmarks on my cards and yet they were there.

                                    To make mra work again I downloaded only France and when I returned from my trip I updated all of Europe to download... and since then I have all the maps of Europe up to date except France , Italy and the United Kingdom!!! I don't know why this situation.
                                    My route cannot be calculated offline again.
                                    It's just an unbearable situation. Looks like the Europe update deleted my previously downloaded map of France and now it is no longer seen by the system.
                                    This map update is depressing!

                                    This application is great but there are still some things that really don't work well when using it. I had deliberately not updated my maps so as not to be confronted with the problem but without updating the maps the app no ​​longer works.

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                                    • undefined Calibos
                                      11 Dec 2023, 19:17

                                      @Con-Hennekens
                                      Indeed, the check mark represents downloaded maps or maps updated with the latest version. in my example, I no longer saw checkmarks on my cards and yet they were there.

                                      To make mra work again I downloaded only France and when I returned from my trip I updated all of Europe to download... and since then I have all the maps of Europe up to date except France , Italy and the United Kingdom!!! I don't know why this situation.
                                      My route cannot be calculated offline again.
                                      It's just an unbearable situation. Looks like the Europe update deleted my previously downloaded map of France and now it is no longer seen by the system.
                                      This map update is depressing!

                                      This application is great but there are still some things that really don't work well when using it. I had deliberately not updated my maps so as not to be confronted with the problem but without updating the maps the app no ​​longer works.

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                                      GT JWR
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                                      wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 20:59 last edited by GT JWR 12 Nov 2023, 20:59
                                      #22

                                      @Calibos in the earlier versions of the app, each up date meant the only way I could use the app was to completely uninstall the app (testFlight as well), reboot the phone (iPhone), reinstall app, and download maps.

                                      thankfully, it seems that bug/issue has been long resolved.

                                      However, because of that, immediatley after an update, I automatically default to updating maps and I've not had the routing issues you are experiencing.

                                      **ironically, actually updating maps as we speak.

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                                      • undefined Calibos
                                        11 Dec 2023, 19:17

                                        @Con-Hennekens
                                        Indeed, the check mark represents downloaded maps or maps updated with the latest version. in my example, I no longer saw checkmarks on my cards and yet they were there.

                                        To make mra work again I downloaded only France and when I returned from my trip I updated all of Europe to download... and since then I have all the maps of Europe up to date except France , Italy and the United Kingdom!!! I don't know why this situation.
                                        My route cannot be calculated offline again.
                                        It's just an unbearable situation. Looks like the Europe update deleted my previously downloaded map of France and now it is no longer seen by the system.
                                        This map update is depressing!

                                        This application is great but there are still some things that really don't work well when using it. I had deliberately not updated my maps so as not to be confronted with the problem but without updating the maps the app no ​​longer works.

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                                        Con Hennekens
                                        Alpha tester
                                        wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 08:31 last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @Calibos, that is indeed a strange thing. You are right, there is definitely some improvements to make concerning the offline maps. Did you by any change download new maps, while there were updates on previously downloaded maps? This is what I am guessing: By doing the above the system parameter that determines the map-version gets updated while not all previously downloaded maps actually have that version. This way it probably still can happen to have older maps not compatible with the current SDK without any warning about a version conflict.

                                        For the time being, I think it is wise to redownload existing maps while installing new maps. This to make sure all your maps are equal in version AND compatible with the current SDK. When going for a longer trip, it might be wise to disable auto app updates, to prevent installing a new SDK version while you do not have the offline maps for it.

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                          wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 16:12 last edited by
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                                          Not entirely sure what happened with offline maps over the past updates.

                                          I haven't updated any offline maps on my personal phone since a few months ago and not experiencing any issues. Offline maps should not be affected by an app (or SDK) update at all unless a mistake was made somewhere 😉

                                          Seems like something went wrong internally with regards to the memory as suddenly other regions appear as downloaded again.

                                          Unfortunately at those moments a reinstall might be the best solution. If the offline maps itself would be corrected, the "offline maps" page would indicate this with a way to resolve the issue.

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